Autozone Fires An Air Force Veteran For Foiling Robbery

Discussion in 'News' started by Aaron Hutto, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Aaron Hutto

    Aaron Hutto Master

    Autozone Fires An Air Force Veteran, Devin McClean, For Foiling Robbery

    Posted on December 4, 2012 by Bulldog1
    York County, Va.- Autozone fired one of its employee’s, Devin McClean, an Air Force Veteran, after he foils a robbery.
    Devin was working at the Autozone in York County, Va. When a criminal nicknamed “The Beard Bandit” walked into the store brandishing a weapon. This guy had already robbed the store once before, and was a suspect in 30 other robberies. The Air Force Veteran took action:
    “I waited for him to go up toward the front, I ran out of the restroom, ran out to my truck where I keep my own personal weapon, grabbed my weapon, came back into the store and confronted the guy,” says McClean.

    “When I yelled “freeze” and I said “Stop, drop the weapon,” he threw his hands up with his gun still in his hand he started running,” says McClean. “I felt like it was my responsibility to step in.”

    Devin’s manager is grateful.

    “He was like “Thank you Devin, you really saved my life,” says McClean.
    Two days later, he was fired.
    Courtesy WTKR.COM This is also the link to the original story.
    According to Autozone’s corporate office, they have a new gun policy, and that is why he was fired. So Autozone, if the manager had been killed had Devin not acted, how would you have felt then? Devin is responsible citizen who acted to save others, and to protect your store from being robbed, and this is how you show gratitude?
    McClean said “If I can save somebody’s life, I put that way above a store policy”. Devin, we agree, you did the right thing and we stand by you for what you did as a citizen with the right to bear arms.
    Here is the video:

    Some are already voicing their opinions on Autozone’s facebook page, if you would like to do the same here is the link. But remember we are Military and Veterans, keep it civil, no threats etc. But we feel this Veteran did the right thing and should not have lost his job for protecting others. I’m sure some will not agree he did the right thing, but we believe he did.

    Autozone on Facebook
    From the Sheriff:
    The sheriff said he was disappointed to hear that McLean lost his job on account of stopping the robbery.
    “That’s certainly unfortunate,” he said. “They should be doing something to reward that young man instead of firing him.”
    Sheriff Diggs said AutoZone has also sent an unintended message to the community.
    “The company has now sent a message to every would-be robber out there – ‘Hey we’re open for business and unarmed. Come on in and take our money,’” he said.
    UPDATE Devin went on the record with Greta last night, here is the video:
    <UPDATE Sheriff Digg's to honor Devin for his heroic actions, he also speaks out against Autozone.
  3. Enkidu

    Enkidu Destroyer of your martial arts fantasies

    While it sounds shitty, I also understand why Autozone would have a policy against employees bringing weapons to work, even if they leave them in their vehicles.

    That said, regardless of the policy, the Vet certainly did a very brave and commendable thing and should rightly be considered a hero, regardless of the fallout with his place of employment. Frankly, getting fired (and the accompanying press coverage) is probably going to benefit him more than had there been no adverse employment action. He'll probably land a better job and end up as a local celebrity because of what Autozone did.
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  4. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    The story doesn't seem to state whether the Beard was arrested as a result of all this - it seems he got away.

    Also, from a legal standpoint, I would think that once Devin was able to get out of the building (= away from the danger) he wouldn't have the right to go back in and confront the Beard. Just sayin'.

    But if it did indeed go down the way they stated then I'm all in support of him, legal or not.
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  5. Gone

    Gone Guest

    You have to be alive to be fired. Fuck no-firearm zones.
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  6. Aaron Hutto

    Aaron Hutto Master

    Like you said, legal or not, he is a hero.

    I can only speak for my great state of NH but out here, if he escaped it would not be legal for him to go back in UNLESS he was protecting the welfare of a woman, a child, or an elderly person. So apparently, the middle aged male manager would just me SOL.
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  7. Ieuan Walker

    Ieuan Walker Grasshoppa

    Well done to that man, heroic actions indeed, but in an age where you have to wear a hard hat and steel toe cap boots to take a shit at work i'm not suprised he was fired. If i were the manager i would have walked out in protest of his contract termination if i truly believed he had saved my life. I'm not familiar with american gun laws, but i thought you have to have a special license to have a gun on you or in your vehicle, which means you're a diligent and responsible gun owner and if so shouldn't you be allowed to use them to stop a robbery before the police have time to respond? or are they just for display?
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  8. Gone

    Gone Guest

    Gun free zones provide a safer environment for a criminal to do their business within.
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  9. Mr.Bond

    Mr.Bond Big Ass Dog

    Have you noticed that most if not all of the shootings are in places where guns are ALREADY banned?

    I never hear of a shooting at an NRA meeting, and pistol competition, a skeet shoot....

    Nothing dummer than to put a "no gun allowed" sticker on the door of your business, yet some do....
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  10. Gone

    Gone Guest

    Yeah, it's a funny thing, that ^^^^
  11. dmach

    dmach Martial Archivest

    Now Now fellas... it is no longer PC for people to actually shoot back at the bad guys because the bad guys were abused and neglected children and it may hurt their feelings. :confused:

    More like put them out of our misery.
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  12. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    Although licenses ARE required, unfortunately they don't test for mental stability - not everyone that has a license is responsible or diligent. But then, that just evens the playing field with the bad guys.
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  13. Caneman

    Caneman Test all things.

    I noticed that last night while watching SNF... that Bob Costas didn't decide to go on a diatribe where he called for the banning of alcohol after an NFL player killed in DUI incident... while the week before he joined the gun banning parade.
    Hmmm... let's compare statistics: looks like exactly 2.5 to 1 with alcohol being the hands down winner.
    And, no, this isn't a statement against alcohol... it is a statement of Costas bent logic.
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  14. i think the bottom line in this is "common sense"....or in the case of the company, lack of. the guy didn't bring the gun into work (as in carrying it on his person ,or in his locker) and only went out to get it as someone's life was in danger. the company( middle/upper management are suffering from that rampant disease....assholeism!
  15. Mr.Bond

    Mr.Bond Big Ass Dog

    The wussification of the american male....What would John Wayne do?

    Look at the "Hollywood" stars now, they are metrosexual wimps for the most part.

    Compare that to the "Hollywood" stars during the 40s and 50s. Many were vets, fought in WWII and Korea etc.

    Now they manscape and get manicures....

    Don't know if these two quotes are true...a sheriff was asked by a reporter:

    Why do you carry a .45? Answer: Because they don't make a .46.

    Are you specting trouble? Answer: If I was expecting trouble, I would have brought a shotgun.
  16. Gone

    Gone Guest

    ".. Shall not be infringed"

    Just repeat this until it sinks in.
  17. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    Yeah, where are all those manly men like Rock Hudson, Tab Hunter, James Dean, Montgomery Clift, Anthony Perkins, Cary Grant, Randolph Scott, and ...

    Oops, no, wait - they were all gay or bi-.

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  18. Mr.Bond

    Mr.Bond Big Ass Dog

    True Hollywood Heroes
    Posted on 12/18/2004 7:14:21 PM PST by Slyfox
    In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the real actors of yester-year loved the United States.
    They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War many of our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country we all love.
    They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men & women, many as simple "enlisted men".
    This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70 medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of Honor.

    So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2003" have been in all of the news media lately I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of 1943 were doing, (60 years ago).

    Most of these brave men have since passed on.

    Real Hollywood Heros
    Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on D-Day.
    James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S. Army on D-Day.
    Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.
    [​IMG] David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British Commandos in Normandy.
    [​IMG] James Stewart entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way to the rank of Colonel.
    During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty.
    Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II.
    In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in the late 1950s.
    Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II,
    Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles.
    He attended the Officers' CandidateSchool at Miami Beach, Fla. and graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942.
    He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s.
    Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age for combat.
    Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.
    [​IMG] Ernest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.
    [​IMG] Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star and awarded the Purple Heart.
    [​IMG] Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan
    [​IMG] George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.
    [​IMG] Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.
    [​IMG] Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.
    [​IMG] Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.
    [​IMG] John Russell In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at Guadalcanal.
    [​IMG] Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia.
    [​IMG] Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed) joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
    [​IMG] Audie Murphy A little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy parts?
    Most Decorated serviceman of WWII and earned: Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2 Bronze Star Medals with "V", 2 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems, American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar, French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm.
    So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching in anti-American parades and saying they hate our president?
    I thought not, neither did
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  19. Mr.Bond

    Mr.Bond Big Ass Dog

    Now that I listed the WW2 heroes, it's your turn to list the current gay ones...LONG list! Take your time.
  20. Mr.Bond

    Mr.Bond Big Ass Dog

    Another list:

    They Also Served:
    Actors with WWII Military Records

    This is a page started on the Combat! web site on January 8, 2002. As I build this, I hope this to be a reference of actors and other entertainers who served in uniform in WWII, with details about their war records. It started with just two detailed biographies. Others to follow. If you have verified information about an actor's war record, please contact me and I'd love to include it on the site. Full credit and bylines for all authored works.
    A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z
    • Don Adams - USMC, Contracted malaria on Guadalcanal [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • John Agar - US Army Air Corps, Sergeant.
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "The Mockingbird.")
    • Gene Autry - Flight Officer, Air Transport Command, 1942-1946 [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Eddie Albert - US Navy. Drove Amtracks in several Pacific invasions. He served in the landings at Saipan in 1943, where he rescued wounded and stranded Marines from the beachhead. At Tarawa, he was wounded and lost most of his hearing and earned the Bronze Star.
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "Doughboy")
    • James Arness - US Army, Wounded at Anzio. Purple Heart and Bronze Star[Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Martin Balsam - US Army.
    • James Best - US Army Air Corps.
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "Mail Call.")
    • Richard Boone - US Navy.
    • Neville Brand - US Army.
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "Fly Away Home.")
    • Ernest Borgnine he served in the U.S. Navy for twelve years, joining before WWII.
    • Mel Brooks (Melvin Kaminsky) joined army in WWII and became a combat engineer. Cleared German mines after the Battle of the Bulge. He organized shows for the US troops, and when the German army began transmitting propaganda over loudspeakers Brooks is said to have replied with a version of Al Jolson's 'Toot-toot-tootsie'. (Information from BBC H2G2.)
    • Charles Bronson - US Army. Conflicting stories...
      (Bronson appeared in the Combat! episode "Heritage.")
    • Richard Burton - Royal Navy.
    • Art Carney - US Army. Carney went to Normandy in July of 1944 as a replacement to the 28th Division in position around St Lô. He was part of a 30 calibre machine gun squad. On 15 August 1944 he had just taken up his position and was hit in the right leg by mortar shrapnel. After receiving field treatment, he was sent back to Britain and then the US. He once said of his military career, "Never fired a shot and maybe never wanted to. I really cost the government money."[source Osprey Military Journal]
    • Julia Child served with the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) in Ceylon and China during WWII. [Source: They Also Servedby Scott Baron]
    • Jeff Chandller - US Army.
    • Robert Clary - In a Nazi concentration camp [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Jackie Coogan - US Army Air Corps. Enlisted in Army March 1941. After Pearl Harbor, requested transfer to Air Corps as a glider pilot because of his civilian flying experience. After graduating from Glider School, he was made a Flight Officer and volunteered for hazardous duty with the 1st Air Commando Group. In Dec. 1943, the unit was sent to India where, by using CG-4A gliders, it airlifted crack British troops under Gen. Orde Wingate during the night aerial invasion of Burma (Mar. 5, 1944), landing them in a small jungle clearing 100 miles behind Japanese lines. [Source: US Air Force museum -]
    • Tony Curtis - US Navy joined 1943 at age 17. In Tokyo Bay he watched the surrender ceremonies from the Signal Bridge of the USS Proteus. [Source The Tender Tale]
    • Ossie Davis - US Army [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Kirk Douglas - US Navy [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Charles Durning - US Army. Durning landed at Omaha Beach in the D-Day invasion. He survived the landing, but was wounded in an ambush during the Battle of the Bulge. He was captured, escaped, and narrowly missed assassination at the Malmedy Massacre. He won three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star. He still carries his memories and battle fatigue to this day. [source Osprey Military Journal]
    • Maurice Evans was in a Special Entertainment Unit that toured the South Pacific.
    • Douglas Fairbanks Jr. - US Navy. He joined the naval reserves before the war. During the war he served on the Battleship Massachuesetts and was a Commando raider sent on several land attack missions. He retired from the reserves, years later, as a full Captain. He wrote about his war years in the book "A Hell of a War" which also covers his duties in helping organize the forerunners of today's Navy Seals.
    • Henry Fonda - US Navy. Bronze Star for Valor.
    • Glenn Ford - US Navy. In addition to his WWII service, he served in the reserves during the Korean War and the Viet Nam War. He retired as a Captain in the US Naval Reserve. [Information provided by Tom Mischke, Commander, USNR (ret.)]
    • Clark Gable - Captain, US Army Air Corps. Although beyond draft age, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the Air Corps on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach and graduated as a second lieutenant. He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943, on personal orders from Gen. Arnold, went to England to make a motion picture of aerial gunners in action. He was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook and although neither ordered nor expected to do so, flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s to obtain the combat film footage he believed was required for producing the movie entitled "Combat America." Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over age for combat. [Source: US Air Force museum -]
    • Frank Gorshin - US Army (Appeared in the Combat episode The Medal)
    • Shecky Greene - US Navy
    • Alan Hale US Coast Guard during WWII.
    • Sterling Hayden USMC
    • Jack Hawkins - Volunteered to serve in the Royal Welsh Fusiliers. He spent most of his military career arranging entertainment for the British forces in India [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • David Hedison
    • Audrey Hepburn, as a child she was a courier for World War II resistance fighters in Holland
    • Benny Hill - British Army
    • William Holden - US Army [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Rick Jason - US Army Air Corps
    • Bob Keeshan - ("Captain Kangaroo") U.S. Marines, enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday. He saw no combat because his enlistment was just two months before the bombing of Hiroshima [Source]
    • Brian Keith - USMC, Aerial gunner [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • George Kennedy - US Army, served 16 Years [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Werner Klemperer - US Army [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Ted Knight - "From what I have found in research, Ted was a Combat Engineer and thus found himself in one of the early units to enter Berlin AFTER the Russians had secured it. Remember, Eisenhower declared Berlin to be merely a "prestige objective" and cancelled plans to airdrop the 82nd Airborne onto Tempelhof Airfield, leaving the taking of Berlin to our Soviet allies. As far as Knight's "bronze stars", they actually were "battle stars" awarded for campaign participation and added to the European-African-Middle Eastern Theater Medal (EAM). My father, who served with Third Army as a Machine Gunner T/5, had five battle stars for his EAM medal. This is not taking anything away from the late Mr. Knight. But battle stars did not signify any particular individual act of bravery or conspicuous gallantry under fire, those acts were rewarded by medals such as the Soldier's Medal, the Bronze Star (first awarded in 1944) or the Silver Star and, of course, higher awards, such as the Distinguished Service Medal, Distinguished Service Cross and Medal of Honor. Of the various obits, including those in the entertainment business (of which I work) I checked, I find no mention of any particular awards for gallantry, although it is is possible he did earn some. As an aside, another guest star, the late Neville Brand, was in fact the fifth most decorated soldier in the Army during the war. He was the sergeant who cared more for his pigeons than Saunder's squad in one episode." information provided by Dana Eugene Creasy
    • Don Knotts - USA 1943 [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Burt Lancaster - US Army [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Jack Lemmon - US Navy Reserve 1945-1946 [Source: A&E's biography]
    • Strother Martin - US Navy Swimming instructor [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Lee Marvin - US Marines, wounded in the battle of Saipan
    • Patrick MacNee British Royal Navy.
    • Steve McQueen USMC
    • Jan Merlin - Enlisted in US Navy April, 1942, served as a destroyer torpedoman until April 1946, honorably discharged. Played Roger Manning, Space Cadet!
    • Burgess Meredith - US Army Air Corps [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Gary Merrill US Army
    • Robert Montgomery - US Navy Reserve
    • Audie Murphy - US Army, most decorated soldier of WWII
      (Audie Murphy books and films)
    • David Niven Royal Army. His relates several charming tales of his war service (including the time he lets a German general slip away) in his autobiography The Moon's a Balloon
    • Caroll O’Connor - Merchant Marines 1942 [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Jack Palance US Army Air Corps. 455th bomb group. Required facial reconstruction from terrible injuries received in 1943 when his B17 crash landed in Britain.
    • Dick Peabody - US Navy
    • Tyrone Power - USMC Pilot in the South Pacific.
    • Anthony Quayle Royal Artillery
    • Jason Robards Jr - US Navy. He was a radioman on duty at Pearl Harbor during the Japanese attack. He wrote about his experiences in A Hell of a War.
    • Ronald Reagan - Captain, US Army Air Corps. Because of a severe hearing loss, he was not allowed any flying duties. However, he appeared in training films. Prior to the war, he was a cavalry officer in the Nebraska National Guard.
    • Carl Reiner Entered army In 1942 and trained as a radio operator. He later studied French on assignment at Georgetown University to become an interpreter, but became a teletype operator in the Signal Corps where, on the way to Iwo Jima from Hawaii, was assigned to Maurice Evans' Special Entertainment Unit. For 18 months, he toured the South Pacific as a comedian in GI reviews. (Info from the
    • Don Rickles - US Navy. Destroyer duty. He has said of one deployment, "It was so hot and humid, the crew rotted."
    • Andy Rooney - (okay, not an actor, but he is a TV personality) Sergeant, US Army. Early in war served with artillery regiment assigned to England. Joined Stars And Stripes in London. In 1943, Rooney is among first correspondents allowed aboard B-17 bombers attacking Germany. He wrote of his war experiences in the book My War.
    • Mickey Rooney - US Army. PFC. Served 21 months with a unit that entertained the troops [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Albert Salmi - US Army.
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "Cat and Mouse.")
    • Charles Schultz (cartoonist) - US Army. Staff sergeant and leader of machine gun squad.
    • Rod Serling - US Army paratroopers [Source: Internet Movie Database]
    • Robert Stack - US Navy. Because of his expertise as an Olympic champion skeet shooter, he was assigned to teach anti-aircraft gunnery.
    • Rod Stieger - Torpedoman, US Navy. Falsified his age to enlist at 16 [Source: A&E's biography]
    • Jimmy Stewart - US Army Air Corps.
    • Eli Wallich (Magnificent Seven) was an admin clerk/Sgt in WWII. The Skipper on Gilligan's Island served with the Coast Guard during WWII.
    • Judge Wapner of The People's Court was saved from a sniper's bullet when it lodged in a can of tuna he was carrying while an Army officer in the Pacific [Source: They Also Served]
    • Eli Wallach Sergeant US Army Medical Corps as an admin clerk.
    • Jack Warden Served in the 101st Airborne during WWII.
    • James Whitmore - USMC. WWII interrupted his pre-law studies at Yale. He received his degree while at boot camp and served as an officer in the Marine Corps. [Source: actor's publicity material]
      (He appeared in the Combat! episode "The Cassock")
    Thank you to John Barlow, David Cronan, Marco Faccioni, Liz Garvin, Richard A. Landgraff, Patrick J. McCall, Tom Mischke, Donald Occhi, Scott Schlitte, and Pete Weiler. for providing additional information for this page.
    Actors who served during other times:

    Alan Bates - Royal Air Force, Humphrey Bogart - US Navy, wounded in World War One, tried to enlist in WWII but was turned down because of his age, Michael Caine - Royal Fusiliers, Sean Connery - Royal Navy
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  21. Gone

    Gone Guest

    Kind of what happens in a heavily segregated society where the females and males aren't allowed to co-exist together freely without prohibitions. Which is kind of why, despite the threat of beheadment/hanging/stoning, or life imprisonment, Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries are beyond rampant with homosexuality.

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