Boxing as a Martial Art

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by SifuPhil, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. perennius

    perennius Disciple

    part 4
    20th century (1914 to 1989)
    The International Boxing Association was established in 1920. World Fencing Championships have been held since 1921.
    Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, or Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, is an adaptation of pre–World War II judo developed by the brothers Carlos and Hélio Gracie, with a large focus on groundwork. Jiu-Jitsu gained fame quickly in Brazil because of the popular fights with Capoeira fighters.[9]
    As Western influence grew in Asia a greater number of military personnel spent time in China, Japan, and South Korea during World War II and the Korean War and were exposed to local fighting styles. Jujutsu, judo and karate first became popular among the mainstream from the 1950s-60s. Due in part to Asian and Hollywood martial arts movies, most modern American martial arts are either Asian-derived or Asian influenced.[10] The term kickboxing (キックボクシング) was created by the Japanese boxing promoter Osamu Noguchi for a variant of Muay Thai and Karate that he created in the 1950s. American kickboxing was developed in the 1970s, as a combination of boxing and karate. Taekwondo was developed in the context of the Korean War in the 1950s.
    The later 1960s and 1970s witnessed an increased media interest in the Chinese fighting systems, influenced by martial artist Bruce Lee. Jeet Kune Do, the system he founded, has its roots in Wing Chun, western boxing, savate and fencing. Bruce Lee is credited as one of the first instructors to openly teach Chinese martial arts to Westerners.[11] World Judo Championships have been held since 1956, Judo at the Summer Olympics was introduced in 1964. Karate World Championships were introduced in 1970.
    Following the "kung fu wave" in Hong Kong action cinema in the 1970s, a number of mainstream films produced during the 1980s contributed significantly to the perception of martial arts in western popular culture. These include The Karate Kid (1984) and Bloodsport (1988). This era produced some Hollywood action stars with martial arts background, such as Jean-Claude Van Damme and Chuck Norris.
    Also during the 20th century, a number of martial arts systems were adapted for self-defense purposes for military hand-to-hand combat. World War II combatives, Kapap (1930s) and Krav Maga (1950s) in Israel, Systema (Soviet era Russia), San Shou (People's Republic of China). The US military de-emphasized hand-to-hand combat training during the Cold War period, but revived it with the introduction of LINE in 1989.
    1990 to present
    During the 1990s Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu became popular and proved to be effective in mixed martial arts competitions such as the UFC and PRIDE.[12]
    The K-1 rules of kickboxing were introduced in 1993, based on 1980s Seidokaikan karate.
    Jackie Chan and Jet Li are prominent movie figures who have been responsible for promoting Chinese martial arts in recent years.
    With the continual discovery of "new" Medieval and Renaissance fighting manuals, the practice of Historical European Martial Arts and other Western Martial Arts are growing in popularity across the United States and Europe.
    November 29, 2011, UNESCO inscribed Taekkyeon (traditional Korean martial art) onto its Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity List[13]
     
    Judah and Deborah like this.
  2. perennius

    perennius Disciple

    part 5
    Testing and competition

    Testing or evaluation is important to martial art practitioners of many disciplines who wish to determine their progression or own level of skill in specific contexts. Students within individual martial art systems often undergo periodic testing and grading by their own teacher in order to advance to a higher level of recognized achievement, such as a different belt color or title. The type of testing used varies from system to system but may include forms or sparring.

    Various forms and sparring are commonly used in martial art exhibitions and tournaments. Some competitions pit practitioners of different disciplines against each other using a common set of rules, these are referred to as mixed martial arts competitions. Rules for sparring vary between art and organization but can generally be divided into light-contact, medium-contact, and full-contact variants, reflecting the amount of force that should be used on an opponent.
    Light- and medium-contact

    These types of sparring restrict the amount of force that may be used to hit an opponent, in the case of light sparring this is usual to 'touch' contact, e.g. a punch should be 'pulled' as soon as or before contact is made. In medium-contact (sometimes referred to as semi-contact) the punch would not be 'pulled' but not hit with full force. As the amount of force used is restricted, the aim of these types of sparring is not to knock out an opponent; a point system is used in competitions.
    A referee acts to monitor for fouls and to control the match, while judges mark down scores, as in boxing. Particular targets may be prohibited, certain techniques may be forbidden (such as headbutting or groin hits), and fighters may be required to wear protective equipment on their head, hands, chest, groin, shins or feet. Some grappling arts, such as aikido, use a similar method of compliant training that is equivalent to light or medium contact.
    In some styles (such as fencing and some styles of Taekwondo sparring), competitors score points based on the landing of a single technique or strike as judged by the referee, whereupon the referee will briefly stop the match, award a point, then restart the match. Alternatively, sparring may continue with the point noted by the judges. Some critics of point sparring feel that this method of training teaches habits that result in lower combat effectiveness. Lighter-contact sparring may be used exclusively, for children or in other situations when heavy contact would be inappropriate (such as beginners), medium-contact sparring is often used as training for full contact
    Full-contact

    Further information: Full-contact
    Full-contact sparring or competition, where strikes are not pulled but thrown with full force as the name implies, has a number of tactical differences from light and medium-contact sparring. It is considered by some to be requisite in learning realistic unarmed combat.[14]
    In full-contact sparring, the aim of a competitive match is either to knock out the opponent or to force the opponent to submit. Where scoring takes place it may be a subsidiary measure, only used if no clear winner has been established by other means; in some competitions, such as the UFC 1, there was no scoring, though most now use some form of judging as a backup.[15] Due to these factors, full-contact matches tend to be more aggressive in character, but rule sets may still mandate the use of protective equipment, or limit the techniques allowed.
    Nearly all mixed martial arts organizations such as UFC, Pancrase, Shooto use a form of full-contact rules, as do professional boxing organizations and K-1. Kyokushin karate requires advanced practitioners to engage in bare-knuckled, full-contact sparring while wearing only a karate gi and groin protector but does not allow punches to the face, only kicks and knees. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and judo matches do not allow striking, but are full-contact in the sense that full force is applied in the permitted grappling and submission techniques.
     
    Judah and Deborah like this.
  3. perennius

    perennius Disciple

    part 6
    Martial Sport

    Main article: Combat sport

    Martial arts have crossed over into sports when forms of sparring become competitive, becoming a sport in its own right that is dissociated from the original combative origin, such as with western fencing. The Summer Olympic Games includes Judo, Taekwondo, western archery, boxing, javelin, wrestling and fencing as events, while Chinese Wushu recently failed in its bid to be included, but is still actively performed in tournaments across the world. Practitioners in some arts such as kickboxing and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu often train for sport matches, whereas those in other arts such as aikido and Wing Chun generally spurn such competitions. Some schools believe that competition breeds better and more efficient practitioners, and gives a sense of good sportsmanship. Others believe that the rules under which competition takes place have diminished the combat effectiveness of martial arts or encourage a kind of practice which focuses on winning trophies rather than a focus such as cultivating a particular moral character.
    The question of "which is the best Martial Art" has led to inter style competitions fought with very few rules allowing a variety of fighting styles to enter with few limitations. This was the origin of the first Ultimate Fighting Championship tournament (later renamed UFC 1: The Beginning) in the U.S. inspired by the Brazilian Vale tudo tradition and along with other minimal rule competitions, most notably those from Japan such as Shooto and Pancrase, have evolved into the combat sport of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA).
    Some martial artists compete in non-sparring competitions such as breaking or choreographed routines of techniques such as poomse, kata and aka, or modern variations of the martial arts which include dance-influenced competitions such as tricking. Martial traditions have been influenced by governments to become more sport-like for political purposes; the central impetus for the attempt by the People's Republic of China in transforming Chinese martial arts into the committee-regulated sport of wushu was suppressing what they saw as the potentially subversive aspects of martial training, especially under the traditional system of family lineages.[16]
     
    Judah and Deborah like this.
  4. perennius

    perennius Disciple

    part 7
    Health and fitness benefits

    Training in martial arts imparts many benefits to the trainee, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual.[17]
    Through systematic practice in the martial arts a person's physical fitness may be boosted (strength, stamina, flexibility, movement coordination, etc.,)[citation needed] as the whole body is exercised and the entire muscular system is activated. Beyond contributing to physical fitness, martial arts training also has benefits for mental health, contributing to self-esteem, self-control, emotional and spiritual well-being. For this reason, a number of martial arts schools have focused purely on therapeutic aspects, de-emphasizing the historical aspect of self-defense or combat completely.[citation needed]
    According to Bruce Lee, martial arts also have the nature of an art, since there is emotional communication and complete emotional expression.[citation needed]
    Self-defense, military and law enforcement applications

    Main articles: Hand to hand combat and Self-defense
    Some traditional martial concepts have seen new use within modern military training. Perhaps the most recent example of this is point shooting which relies on muscle memory to more effectively utilize a firearm in a variety of awkward situations, much the way an iaidoka would master movements with their sword.
    During the World War II era William E. Fairbairn and Eric A. Sykes were recruited by the Special Operations Executive (SOE) to teach their martial art of defendu (itself drawing on jujutsu and Western boxing) and pistol shooting to UK, US, and Canadian special forces. The book Kill or Get Killed, written by Colonel Rex Applegate, was based on the defendu taught by Sykes and Fairbairn. Both Fairbairn's Get Tough and Appelgate's Kill or Get Killed became classic works on hand-to-hand combat.
    Traditional hand-to-hand, knife, and spear techniques continue to see use in the composite systems developed for today's wars. Examples of this include European Unifight, the US Army's Combatives system developed by Matt Larsen, the Israeli army's kapap and Krav Maga, and the US Marine Corps's Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP).
    Unarmed dagger defenses identical to those found in the manual of Fiore dei Liberi and the Codex Wallerstein were integrated into the U.S. Army's training manuals in 1942[18] and continue to influence today's systems along with other traditional systems such as eskrima and silat.
    The rifle-mounted bayonet, which has its origin in the spear, has seen use by the United States Army, the United States Marine Corps, and the British Army as recently as the Iraq War.[19]
    Martial arts industry

    Martial arts since the 1970s has become a significant industry, a subset of the wider sport industry (including cinema and sports television).
    Hundreds of millions of people worldwide practice some form of martial art. Web Japan (sponsored by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs) claims there are 50 million karate practitioners worldwide.[20] The South Korean government in 2009 published an estimate that Taekwondo is practiced by 70 million people in 190 countries.[21]
    The wholesale value of martial arts related sporting equipment shipped in the United States was estimated at 314 million USD in 2007; participation in the same year was estimated at 6.9 million (ages 6 or older, 2% of US population).[22] R. A. Court, CEO of Martial Arts Channel, stated the total revenue of the US martial arts industry at USD 40 billion and the number of US practitioners at 30 million in 2003.[23] Ultimate Fighting Championship generated a revenue of about USD 250 million in 2008, about 90% of the entire Mixed Martial Arts industry. World Wrestling Entertainment had a revenue of USD 1.4 billion.[24]
     
    Dave76 and Deborah like this.
  5. Deborah

    Deborah Ninja

    Oooooft well, I think that pretty much covers that one:eek:!! Can I just say thanx to you for taking the time to pass on this interesting and informative information, I personally appreciate it....love, peace and respects xxxXXxxx
     
  6. Gone

    Gone Guest

    Boxing is a great stepping stone for martial arts. It is very simple to learn, remember, and apply. And the techniques in boxing such as the basic punches and combinations, footwork, stances, bobbing and weaving, blocking and so on are the foundation for developing yourself into a really good striker. Later when you have good knowledge and skill, you can add legs/feet into the attack (tae kwon do, savate, kick boxing) and after that, you can add knees, elbows, and stand up grappling as well (mma, muay thai).
     
  7. WonderingFist

    WonderingFist Disciple of Mind

    HA! Most wushu is a sport nowadays. It's nearly impossible to find someone who'll teach wushu that's designed to hurt people first and look pretty second.

    On topic, I reckon boxing is a definite martial art.
    I reckon personally that many boxers though, are shit martial artists.
    Once upon a time I was told in a bar "who needs training if you can punch someone and kill them."
    Boxing is a great martial art. Builds your physical fitness to an impressive level, you learn to move and you learn to strike.
    People who say that punching is the be-all-end-all and that boxing is the greatest shit ever, don't deserve the title of 'artist'.
    Though those sorts of people can be found in any art.

    ...I did get to meet an under 17's champ at my High School. The guy was awesome. Great fighter and accepted all arts. He just had no interest in them.
    So yea...
     
  8. Judah

    Judah fights in tights

    This has been an interesting thread!

    I consider boxing to be a martial art, although I also consider it a sport. However I a consider marksmanship a martial art as well as a sport.

    What about aikido? A friend of mine who practiced told me it technically wasn't a martial art as there are no attacking techniques involved...?
     
  9. Gone

    Gone Guest

    Screaming hysterically while thrashing arms and legs about like a psychotic lunatic could essentially be considered a martial art, given the right circumstances hahahahahah. I dunno. My opinion, not being a practitioner, is that just because the techniques and the mentality are more geared towards defense, that doesn't make it any less of a martial art than Pankration.
     
    RJ Clark likes this.
  10. RJ Clark

    RJ Clark Tree Ninja Staff Member

    Agreed Red Australian. That's well, just silly of him to try to disassociate Aikido from martial arts. There may be more art involved than martial for Aikido, but it's still designed to deal with someone attacking you.

    :D
     
  11. Judah

    Judah fights in tights

    Yeah I argued that with him too, he just kept repeating that it's nothing to do with war or the military and as martial means pertaining to such aikido didn't qualify.
     
  12. Sherratt

    Sherratt Disciple

    how about this. In the ring boxing is a sport - out side the ring its a martial art :cool:
     
    Judah likes this.
  13. Sherratt

    Sherratt Disciple

    well then hes an ignorant fool who knows nothing of the origin of aikido
     
  14. Dave76

    Dave76 Deheuol Gwyn Dragon


    Dito! Thankyou perennius.
     
  15. Dave76

    Dave76 Deheuol Gwyn Dragon

    Mmm, plethora of combinations designed around disarming someone and turning their wepon against them... yeah can't see that helping in a war:inpain: ( Sarcasm not directed at you Judah:) , I realise your just repeating what arguments others have made).
     
    Sherratt and Judah like this.
  16. Sherratt

    Sherratt Disciple

    thoes movments were not just sword disarms but were origanlly preformed with swords them selfs
     
  17. Dave76

    Dave76 Deheuol Gwyn Dragon

    For me, Boxing is a limited style of martial art that you can practice as a sport, just like BJJ.
    I love my BJJ, but it's not a complete all encompassing system and it's not going to be my go to style in a fight, let alone a war!
    Punching someones lights out with a crisp sharp right cross on the battlefield if you've been disarmed or need to take the guy\girl out without killing them is a valid skill that requires dedicated training and disipline. Just because you can become proficient at it in a far shorter time frame does'nt lesson it's worth in my eyes.
    Eastern martial artists have by and large an image as the more intelligent fighter. Boxers are mostly looked at as braindead brawlers, not capable of strategy, poetry, caligraphy or any of the other stereotypes that go with Eastern martial arts.
    Anyone can learn to box, but only a few are capable of becoming a martial arts 'Master', etc,etc...
    The Sweet Science is a martial art dealing with a very specific area of combat.
     
  18. Sherratt

    Sherratt Disciple

    the way i understood it is boxing comes from panatukan which is a fillipeno martial art that alows the use of everything except the foot (so thats fists, knife hands, ridge hands, finger trikes, elbows, knees, even the head - with very effective and lethal combinations) which its self an unarmed form of eskrima or kali...
     
  19. Judah

    Judah fights in tights

    I agree, I think the fact it has only 4 techniques and variations of those, means you get better at them than if you had 8, 10 or 50 techniques to master. Certainly it has limitations in close range boxers are broken up by a ref in a real fight if one has some BJJ or Judo training they'd have the advantage, anyone who can kick would have an edge over a boxer outside punching range.
     
  20. Judah

    Judah fights in tights

    Boxing as we know it originated in England, it started as an all encompassing fighting system including swords, quarter staffs, cudgels, wrestling punching (obviously) ando kicking was also included. Jack Broughton eventually wrote "the London prize ring rules" the first set of rules governing prize fighting contests. Later replaced by the marquess of Queensberry's rules.

    Of course, using fists to punch fuck out of an opponent is in every martial art (well most)
     

Share This Page