How Fast Do You Process Threats and Responses?

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  1. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

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  3. Locutus

    Locutus Your fight is futile, my hands are pounding you!

    Nice tips.
     
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  4. Sabomnim Dan

    Sabomnim Dan Disciple

    I never quite articulated it that far, even to myself, but that about sums up the main points of the 'risk assessment' I do every time I confront a person (at work that is, I'm typically a non-confrontational person).
     
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  5. Caneman

    Caneman Test all things.

    I have a habit of surveying every environment I walk into. You can tell the wolves from the sheep if you know what you are looking for... and they can tell you too. Some are more subconscious about it. If you know what to look for, it is easy to ascertain quick info such as whether they are right or left handed, injuries, drive or motivation (by the way they walk), even some potential abilities sometimes... etc, etc...
    It is a fairly easy skill to hone... if you just use it.
    Our society and its relative safety has trained most to ignore those innate skills.
     
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  6. Locutus

    Locutus Your fight is futile, my hands are pounding you!

    I got those skills from living in Sydney. You need them in the west :)
     
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  7. Pedro

    Pedro Baek Doo San

    Few times I was attacked I started talking to the guy... 2/3 times they forfeited the attack
     
  8. Caneman

    Caneman Test all things.

    Verbal Judo...
     
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  9. Locutus

    Locutus Your fight is futile, my hands are pounding you!

    I tend to use Verbal Diarrhoea. That works too :)
     
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  10. Reminds me of a book called shadow watrior....art of yhe butterfly.....kinda like secret agent stuff
     
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  11. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    I think it would seem that way to the average Joe, but to a true warrior it would be a daily way of life.
     
  12. Vldz

    Vldz Warrior Monk


    I tend to use the "look" instead of Verbal Judo myself.
     
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  13. Locutus

    Locutus Your fight is futile, my hands are pounding you!

    You mean a kill face like in Ameridote? I have a kill face, it's the sort of face that once you look at it you just want to kill it :)
     
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  14. Caneman

    Caneman Test all things.

    My wife has the best "kill face" on the planet.
     
  15. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    My kill face ...

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  16. Dave76

    Dave76 Deheuol Gwyn Dragon


    So this was taken shortly after class had finished? Wow, sales funnel indeed:eek:
     
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  17. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    Actually it was during nap time - you can see my "kids" sleeping in the background. I had just found out that we were out of milk and cookies.
     
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  18. Michael Spivey

    Michael Spivey Warrior Monk

    Here is a very good synopsis of the color coded conditions as authored by Col Jeff Cooper, these color codes apply to all combat wither armed or empty handed. I have used this many times over the years and it is what I teach my students, and it is how I view all threats and how to be able to reply to any situation.

    Mike
    Combat Mindset: The Cooper Color Code

    The most important means of surviving a lethal confrontation, according to Cooper, is neither the weapon nor the martial skills. The primary tool is the combat mindset, set forth in his book, Principles of Personal Defense.[5] In the chapter on awareness, Cooper presents an adaptation of the Marine Corps system to differentiate states of readiness:
    The color code, as originally introduced by Jeff Cooper, had nothing to do with tactical situations or alertness levels, but rather with one's state of mind. As taught by Cooper, it relates to the degree of peril you are willing to do something about and which allows you to move from one level of mindset to another to enable you to properly handle a given situation. Cooper did not claim to have invented anything in particular with the color code, but he was apparently the first to use it as an indication of mental state.[6]
    • White: Unaware and unprepared. If attacked in Condition White, the only thing that may save you is the inadequacy or ineptitude of your attacker. When confronted by something nasty, your reaction will probably be "Oh my God! This can't be happening to me."
    • Yellow: Relaxed alert. No specific threat situation. Your mindset is that "today could be the day I may have to defend myself". You are simply aware that the world is a potentially unfriendly place and that you are prepared to defend yourself, if necessary. You use your eyes and ears, and realize that "I may have to shoot today". You don't have to be armed in this state, but if you are armed you should be in Condition Yellow. You should always be in Yellow whenever you are in unfamiliar surroundings or among people you don't know. You can remain in Yellow for long periods, as long as you are able to "Watch your six." (In aviation 12 o'clock refers to the direction in front of the aircraft's nose. Six o'clock is the blind spot behind the pilot.) In Yellow, you are "taking in" surrounding information in a relaxed but alert manner, like a continuous 360 degree radar sweep. As Cooper put it, "I might have to shoot."
    • Orange: Specific alert. Something is not quite right and has your attention. Your radar has picked up a specific alert. You shift your primary focus to determine if there is a threat (but you do not drop your six). Your mindset shifts to "I may have to shoot that person today", focusing on the specific target which has caused the escalation in alert status. In Condition Orange, you set a mental trigger: "If that person does "X", I will need to stop them". Your pistol usually remains holstered in this state. Staying in Orange can be a bit of a mental strain, but you can stay in it for as long as you need to. If the threat proves to be nothing, you shift back to Condition Yellow.
    • Red: Condition Red is fight. Your mental trigger (established back in Condition Orange) has been tripped. "If 'X' happens I will shoot that person" - 'X' has happened, the fight is on.
    The USMC uses condition Black, although it was not originally part of Cooper's Color Code. Condition Black: Catastrophic breakdown of mental and physical performance. Usually over 175 heartbeats per minute, increased heart rate becomes counter productive. May have stopped thinking correctly. This can happen when going from Condition White or Yellow immediately to Condition Red.
    In short, the Color Code helps you "think" in a fight. As the level of danger increases, your willingness to take certain actions increases. If you ever do go to Condition Red, the decision to use lethal force has already been made (your "mental trigger" has been tripped).
    The following are some of Cooper's additional comments on the subject.
    Considering the principles of personal defense, we have long since come up with the Color Code. This has met with surprising success in debriefings throughout the world. The Color Code, as we preach it, runs white, yellow, orange, and red, and is a means of setting one’s mind into the proper condition when exercising lethal violence, and is not as easy as I had thought at first. There is a problem in that some students insist upon confusing the appropriate color with the amount of danger evident in the situation. As I have long taught, you are not in any color state because of the specific amount of danger you may be in, but rather in a mental state which enables you to take a difficult psychological step. Now, however, the government has gone into this and is handing out color codes nationwide based upon the apparent nature of a peril. It has always been difficult to teach the Gunsite Color Code, and now it is more so. We cannot say that the government’s ideas about colors are wrong, but that they are different from what we have long taught here. The problem is this: your combat mind-set is not dictated by the amount of danger to which you are exposed at the time. Your combat mind-set is properly dictated by the state of mind you think appropriate to the situation. You may be in deadly danger at all times, regardless of what the Defense Department tells you. The color code which influences you does depend upon the willingness you have to jump a psychological barrier against taking irrevocable action. That decision is less hard to make since the jihadis have already made it.​
    He further simplified things in Vol. 13 #7 of his Commentaries.
    "In White you are unprepared and unready to take lethal action. If you are attacked in White you will probably die unless your adversary is totally inept.
    In Yellow you bring yourself to the understanding that your life may be in danger and that you may have to do something about it.
    In Orange you have determined upon a specific adversary and are prepared to take action which may result in his death, but you are not in a lethal mode.
    In Red you are in a lethal mode and will shoot if circumstances warrant."[7]
     
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  19. DeeD

    DeeD Nak Muay

    very interesting (y)
     
  20. Caneman

    Caneman Test all things.

    I would be more afraid that you might bite me... in that Photoshop.
     
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  21. SifuPhil

    SifuPhil Lucky Cat Is Lucky

    Real Spartan choppers, huh? :D
     

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