Recently there was a heated debate at a tourament. The arguement was is Tang Soo Do really Korean? One instructor insisted it is Korean. During the board discussion, a lady stated that the Koreans changed things and added korean kicks and that made it Korean. Someone else made the statement that it was really Shoto-kan. This really got things going. A group of us got to watching the forms during the tournament and noticed that they were really Shoto-kan, but under different names. One form which was the symbol of the Snake, looked just like Bassai Dai(Which is a Shoto-kan kata). Needless to say no one wanted to talk any more about it. I have to agree that it is Shoto-kan. But each to his own.